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A vueltas con el mol

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Un curso más… ¡hay que volver a explicar lo que es un mol! Hace algo más de un año en este blog se suscitó un debate sobre el concepto (ver debajo ¿Qué es el mol?) y algunos profesores/as dejaron su opinión sobre el mismo. Lo que se aprecia leyendo los comentarios es que existe bastante diversidad de opiniones a la hora de enfrentar el concepto y, sobre todo, se reconoce una cierta dificultad a la hora de transmitirlo a los alumnos/as.

No quedaría bien que quien lanzó la discusión no se mojara dando su opinión sobre el asunto, pero lo que debería ser un post con una extensión razonable se fue alargando, así que he optado por elaborar un documento en el que se trata con bastante detalle mi idea de lo que es un mol.

Muy ligado al concepto de mol está el Número de Avogadro. Lograr que nuestros alumnos/as tengan una idea, al menos aproximada, de su magnitud, es otro desafío. Una estrategia para lograrlo se recoge en el segundo de los documentos que se muestran más abajo.

Espero que todo esto sea útil. Al menos, es un  intento.

A vueltas con el mol: avueltasconelmol.pdf

Número de Avogadro: numeroavogadro.pdf

 


 ¿Qué es el mol?

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Seguro que muchos de nosotros llevamos años intentando explicar lo que es un mol. Seguro que algunos habremos sentido cierta desazón cuando piensas un poco en profundidad lo que estás diciendo. Seguro que bastantes hemos tranquilizado nuestras conciencias cuando el ¿concepto? muestra su utilidad a la hora de hacer cálculos en reacciones químicas. Pero… ¿qué es un mol? La cosa parece que no está nada clara. En una trabajo (realizado, es cierto, en 1994. Imaginemos que desde entonces la cosa haya mejorado un poco) se afirma que sólo un 10,7 % ¡de los profesores/as! identificaba el mol como unidad de la magnitud cantidad de sustancia. Pero… qué significa exactamente “cantidad de sustancia”. Para contribuir al debate se proporcionan tres artículos sobre el particular:

Qué es la energía

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Si antes se planteaba en este blog el concepto de mol, nos atrevemos ahora con otro concepto básico en Física: ¿qué es la energía?… responder a esta pregunta no es fácil, pero tampoco lo es responder a estas otras: ¿qué es el espacio?…¿y el tiempo?. Dicen que Einstein contestó a esta última con un ingenioso “… yo sé lo que es el tiempo, pero si me preguntas lo que es, no sabría decírtelo”. Yo creo que a todos nos pasa algo similar con el concepto de energía.

Probablemente haya que renunciar a una definición del concepto, al menos si lo planteamos con esa generalidad. Más que de energía en general se debería de hablar de tipos de energía: cinética, potencial… definibles y medibles.

Como muy bien plantea Arnaldo González Arias en el artículo aparecido en el numero de noviembre de 2006 de la Revista Iberoamericana de Física “… hoy día es prácticamente imposible encontrar en los libros de texto una definición generalizada de energía que no pueda ser impugnada por una u otra razón. ¿Cómo introducir entonces, el concepto de energía?”. La respuesta que se plantea al interrogante tiene un gran interés (ver artículo)

El concepto “energía” en la enseñanza de las ciencias. RIF. Noviembre 2006

La línea sugerida por Arnaldo González la hemos seguido en nuestro instituto (IES Juan A. Suanzes. Avilés. Asturias). Para hacerse una idea del tratamiento pueden verse los apuntes dedicados a energía para 4º de ESO o 1º de Bachillerato

233 Comentarios a “Debate”

29 03 2007
Guillermo Franco Crespo (18:04:48) :

Hola:

Ya conocía el artículo de la revista Eureka sobre la definición de mol.
La verdad que, como se dice en alguno de los artículos, la unidad de la magnitud física masa es el kilogramo. Lo que me estraña es que sólo el 10% de los profesores no identificasen mol como unidad de cantidad de sustancia.
La verdad que entender estos artículos que propones es tarea ardua, requiere su tiempo y tal vez yo adolezca deformación química. Pero tratar de entender qué es cantidad de sustancia creo que es igual de difícil (o de fácil) que entender qué es masa. ¿O alguien es capaz de explicarme lo que es la masa de un cuerpo?

Un saludo. Espero que cuando digiera los artículos pueda exponer conclusiones más útiles.

Guillermo Franco Crespo
http://www.e-doctum.com
Formando Con Ciencia

6 06 2007
dolores (16:41:50) :

Realmente llevo tantos años hablando de moles que ya casi no puede plantearme qué digo. Suelto el discurso y como siempre hay gente que lo sigue y gente que no. Tengo la costumbre de comparar el mol con la docena (no se si acierto) pero a mi me sirvió de mucho. Un saludo.

24 03 2008
Karina (03:44:05) :

Hasta que pro fin le entendí a los moles.

18 04 2008
roberto (00:07:56) :

es una duda que tenia pero hoy se me hizo saberla gracias

19 04 2008
Ruben (16:30:35) :

Llevo explicando el concepto de mol a niños de 2ESO algunos años y es cierto que les cuesta entenderlo, pero tal y como he leído algo mas arriba, yo también uso el concepto de docena, y con eso la mayor parte termina “pillando” su significado.

Salu2

24 04 2008
KAIKUTA (12:31:31) :

Yo utilizo la proporcionalidad entre la masa (o peso) de distintas unidades y la masa de un número cualquiera de unidades (por ejemplo 1.000), para distintos objetos, como por ejemplo garbanzos, tornillos, etc… Les hago ver a mis alumnos que las distintas masas de un mismo número de tales objetos son proporcionales a las masas de sus respectivas unidades (un garbanzo, un tornillo, etc…). Por último les hago tomar un número de Avogadro de unidades y comprenden perfectamente que la masa del mismo es un MOL.
Soy profesor de FISICA y QUIMICA en secundaria y mis alumnos tienen entre 12 y 17 años.

6 02 2009
carolina (20:41:42) :

Buenas tardes soy una profesora de fisica y quimica y creo que este concepto de moles es muy correcto para la enseñanza escolar, incluso me parece una gran putada que pongais esta mierda aqui colgada porque no vale para nada solo para dar por saco a los niños de la eso …
Que sois todos unas mierdas qe podrias apovar a los niños y dejaros de mongoladas….que esto solo sirve para vuestras estupideses y vuestros placeres colgao de la mente..bueno un placer por comunicaros estoo…muchas felicidades por vuetras gilipoyeses adios.saldos mentales.

6 02 2009
Ruben (20:45:23) :

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7 02 2009
Luis Ignacio García (09:35:17) :

Estimados Carolina y Rubén:

Me cuesta creer que seáis profesores de algo, menos de Física y Quimica. Cualquier profesor debe ser respetuoso con las personas a las que se dirige utilizando un lenguaje apropiado, no soez. Si, además, se dedica a enseñar ciencia, debería saber que cualquier concepto o teoría es perfectible, esto es, admite modificaciones que lo mejoren o que demuestren su falsedad. Esto es tan importante que constituye la esencia del trabajo científico.
Dicho esto no comprendo muy bien vuestro monumental cabreo con lo que se expone. Considerando el mol como algo básico en el estudio de la Química, lo que aquí se pretende es, fundamentalmente, clarificar el concepto para que éste sea usado correctamente. Otro tanto se puede decir del concepto de energía. Lamento que por intentar esto nos consideréis “colgaos de la mente” y a nuestros argumentos “gilipoyeses”. De todas maneras ya lo decía Rafael (El Gallo): Hay gente “pa to”.
Un saludo.
Luis Ignacio García

7 02 2009
FyQ Forever (10:55:38) :

Tranquilo Nacho que ya sabes que todo esto que cuelgas aquí solamente lo miramos unos pocos interesados por el tema, de modo que no te preocupes que no da “por saco” a nadie. Quien se interesa, lo mira y quien no, obviamente, no lo hace. Sólo quiero añadir una cosa más, hace tiempo que no subes nada eh, lo de Galileo está muy bien, pero ya me sé su vida casi de memoria jajajaja.

Nada más. Por cierto, por si esa gente (si se les puede llamar así) lo lee, soy un alumno de 2º de Bachiller del instutito en el que imparte clase Luis Ignacio y ahora veo la suerte que tengo de que no haya en el centro personajes como vosotros.

Un saludo.

20 12 2009
Joaquin (12:23:53) :

Quisiera que algun experto, algun fisico o quimico con experiencia me informara sobre recientes noticias que he leido acerca del proyecto ORBO, investigado por una empresa irlandesa llamada Steorn, que habla de que ha conseguido una forma de producir energia limpia de forma indefinida a partir de campos magnéticos o algo asi; vista asi la noticia, es un noticion que puede cambiar la humanidad para bien, energia barata, limpia e indefinida. Como no soy fisico ni nada que se le parezca no controlo estos temas asi que me gustaria que alguien me dijera si esto es posible, factible, vamos si es verdad o es un bulo de internet. Quisiera si es posible que ademas de publicarlo en este blog, que me mandaran la informacion a mi e-mail.

Gracias

21 12 2009
Luis Ignacio García (08:04:18) :

Estimado amigo:

No es la primera vez , ni será la última, que alguien dice conseguir el “móvil perpetuo de primera especie” (siempre se ha demostrado que el invento era una falsedad). Es decir, algo que funciona sin consumir energía. La Ley de Conservación de la Energía es un principio básico de la Física y, hasta hoy, no se conoce ningún caso de violación de esta ley. Si efectivamente el invento contuviera tal revolución (habría que reescribir la Física entera) estoy seguro que estaría publicado en todas las revistas científicas del mundo a cinco columnas. Parece que los inventores aún no han “desvelado” el fundamento científico del invento. No obstante si quiere más información (de la buena), diríjase a Curioso pero inútil, un blog que no sólo es curioso, también riguroso y veraz, y, sobre todo, útil. Allí hace tiempo que se han ocupado del tema

http://curiosoperoinutil.com/2006/08/28/consultorio-cpi-energia-gratis/

Un saludo

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10 03 2011
Núria (18:45:40) :

Hola a todos!

Soy alumna de primero de bachillerato de ciencias en un instituto de Cataluña y estoy muy interesada en hacer un trabajo de investigación que tenga por título <>. Pretendo defender que el mol es una unidad que, hoy en día, se valora en exceso. Mi objetivo es erradicarlo, eliminarlo para hacer un estudio de la química desde otro punto de vista. Lo que quiero es tratar los temas relacionados con este concepto de una forma distinta para descubrir si el alumnado los comprende mejor o peor con este nuevo método didáctico. Para ello, pretendo experimentar con mis compañeros: elaborar algunas sesiones que me permitan contrastar la enseñanza de dicho temario con y sin esta unidad.

Antes de comenzar con mi reflexión, quisiera tener la opinión de expertos en el tema y agradecería algún consejo sobre por dónde comenzar a investigar (sobre dónde aplicar los cambios en primer lugar).

Mi pregunta: realmente creéis que el mol es algo de lo que no podemos prescindir? Si no lo creéis: sería más sencillo enseñar química sin este concepto?

Muchísimas gracias :)

Núria.

10 03 2011
Núria (18:47:24) :

No ha salido el título, por lo visto… Ahí va: La didáctica de la química sin el mol.

Gracias nuevamente.

10 03 2011
LUIS IGNACIO (19:50:04) :

Hola Nuria:

Me parece una idea excelente eso que estàs haciendo. Si echas un vistazo a los artículos que se proponen al final del post (por cierto el enlace estaba roto, acabo de repararlo) te darás cuenta de que no eres la única que discute sobre la conveniencia de la unidad. Puedes empezar por ahí, creo que tienes bastante trabajo por delante.
No obstante piensa que el mol es una de las siete unidades fundamentales dl S.I y su uso está muy arraigado. No obstante no hay nada inamovible.
Si haces algo y lo publicas en Internet me gustaría ver el resultado final. Ya sabes donde estamos.

11 03 2011
Núria (20:41:37) :

Hola Luís Ignacio!

Agradezco tu rapidez e interés. Ahora ya he podido abrir los enlaces y he guardado los documentos para imprimirlos y leerlos lo antes posible.
Yo también creo que tengo mucho trabajo por delante y por eso, aunque tenga que librar el trabajo el próximo curso, quiero comenzarlo ya. Esta web me ha ido de lujo para encontrar lo que realmente estaba buscando y, aunque aún no haya leído toda la información que aquí facilitas, creo que me va a dar una muy buena idea del concepto mol y de los problemas que este comporta en el ámbito didáctico. Supongo que esto me ayudará a elaborar la primera parte del proyecto (una investigación sobre los métodos didácticos actuales que me permita introducir, primero, y profundizar, más adelante, en el concepto MOL). En la segunda ya comenzaré con la innovación, es decir, lo eliminaré y intentaré buscar otros caminos. Esta segunda parte es la que más me asusta porque, como tú mismo dices, el mol es una de las unidades fundamentales del SI y se valora muchísimo en el mundo de la ciencia (tanto que abren temas de debate como este). Aunque yo, la verdad, no pretendo modificar la concepción actual de la química. Tampoco me veo con capacidad de llegar a tal extremo. Simplemente plantearé un método alternativo que puede o no funcionar.

Será un placer facilitarte el resultado final. Si decido publicarlo en Internet me gustaría, si te parece bien, que figurara en este mismo blog para que otros como yo puedan informarse con la seguridad de estar en el sitio adecuado.

Un saludo,

Núria.

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